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The sons of Japheth: Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras Gog is listed as a descendant of Reuben (one of the sons of patriarch Jacob) in the 5th century BCE 1 Chronicles 5: 3, 4. But it is important we discuss our interpretations critically so that they will also stand the criticism of non-Muslims when we present such interpretations. Of course one could say there is a delay between the phrases “they will come out to the people” and “they will drink all the water” but this is nowhere in the hadith itself. [14], لاَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ حَتَّى تُقَاتِلُوا قَوْمًا نِعَالُهُمُ الشَّعْرُ وَلاَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ حَتَّى تُقَاتِلُوا قَوْمًا صِغَارَ الأَعْيُنِ ذُلْفَ الآنُفِ كَأَنَّ وُجُوهَهُمُ الْمَجَانُّ الْمُطْرَقَةُ, The last hour will not come before you fight with a people whose sandals are of hair, and the Last hour will not come before you fight with a people who have small eyes, short noses, and whose faces look as if they were shields covered with skin.[15]. I (the narrator) said: You mean Rome? ou tu les châties, ou tu uses de bienveillance à leur égard». Jika pada tahun 642 M pasukan Abdurrohman Ibn Robiah yang melintasi Kaukasus juga melewati celah Darial Gorge tanpa menemui tembok besi ataupun bendungan air di utara celah, bisa disimpulkan bahwa tembok besi ini telah lenyap secara keseluruhan. It appears that the reason for entering into truce would be the common enemy who would have caused significant damage to the Romans just around or before the appearance of the Mahdi; this immense damage would have forced them to ally with the believers. …no absolute textual authority (nass) contradicts the fact of this Wall disintegrating before Qiyamah, or of some people from the Ya’juj Ma’juj crossing over to this side by taking some distant and long-winding route. Some readers may be of the view that the above hypothesis sounds valid if Ahadith are rejected and one relies solely on the Qur’an. This shows that they are not an exact 99.9% (999 out of 1,000) and that these numbers are rough close figures. This shows us that they were separated from others through a barrier and not necessarily locked up underground. after ‘Isa (عليه السلام) descends). وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته – جزاك اللهُ خيراً. So they will dig and will come out to the people, and they will drink all the water. Banyak informasi yang bersifat simbolik, yang tidak bisa kita mengerti secara pas tanpa memecahkan kode atau simbol yang disampaikan oleh Rosululloh Shollallohu ‘Alaihi Wasallam. (1) Une source boueuse: autre interprétation: une source bouillante. Puis, lorsqu’il en eut comblé l’espace entre les deux montagnes, il dit: «Soufflez!» Puis, lorsqu’il l’eut rendu une fournaise, il dit: «Apportez-moi du cuivre fondu, que je le déverse dessus». Now, about the narration where Isa (عليه السلام) talks about his descent, yes Y&M will come down from every hill and that incident would be their major, final attack. Contentions against ‘splitting of the moon’, The barrier of Yajuj and Majuj had been broken long back, Some of them attacked the Muslims in the 13, They continue to live in the world while continuing their oppression, They are not necessary only Mongols and are more groups of people as well who have immense strength and weapons (the likes of which could be sent to outer space), The Romans would oppress and occupy the believers, A common enemy of the Muslims and the Romans would attack the Romans, Muslims and the Romans would enter into peace treaties and fight and destroy the common enemy, Afterwards, Armageddon between Muslims and Romans would take place (Yajuj and Majuj would wait and watch), Eisa (عليه السلام) would descend and kill the Dajjal, Afterwards, Yajuj and Majuj would come forth to take over the world and would cause immense damage but would be destroyed by Allah. The Musnad Ahmad Hadith is doubted by some but giant scholars have authenticated it as well. Another explicit statement is as follows: “‏ سَتُقَاتِلُونَ جَزِيرَةَ الْعَرَبِ فَيَفْتَحُهَا اللَّهُ ثُمَّ تُقَاتِلُونَ الرُّومَ فَيَفْتَحُهَا اللَّهُ ثُمَّ تُقَاتِلُونَ الدَّجَّالَ فَيَفْتَحُهَا اللَّهُ ‏”‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ جَابِرٌ فَمَا يَخْرُجُ الدَّجَّالُ حَتَّى تُفْتَحَ الرُّومُ, It was narrated from Jabir bin Samurah, that Nafi’ bin ‘Utbah bin Abu Waqqas narrated that the Prophet (ﷺ) said: “You will fight the Arabian Peninsula and victory will be granted by Allah. 96. About the idea that the barrier of Gog and Magog has already been destroyed: doesn’t it seem like this was promoted to deal with the embarrassment resulting from our not being able to find the barrier? They would be in this very state that they would hear of a calamity more horrible than this. This paper states that it occurred partly in the past and their final and destructive attack will occur after the return of Eisa (عليه السلام). However your post is very good in proving that this opinion is not conclusive. Rather, the promise is about the destruction of barrier only and it has been destroyed as promised. The words ‘unable to pass over it’ refer to the past when they were unable to do as such and there is no indication that they would not be able to break through or pass over or that the wall may fall down in the future. قَالَ هَـذَا رَحْمَةٌ مِّن رَّبِّى فَإِذَا جَآءَ وَعْدُ رَبِّى جَعَلَهُ دَكَّآءَ وَكَانَ وَعْدُ رَبِّى حَقّاً – وَتَرَكْنَا بَعْضَهُمْ يَوْمَئِذٍ يَمُوجُ فِى بَعْضٍ وَنُفِخَ فِى الصُّورِ فَجَمَعْنَـهُمْ جَمْعاً, [Dhul-Qarnayn] said, “This is a mercy from my Lord; but when the promise of my Lord comes, He will make it level, and ever is the promise of my Lord true.” And I will leave them that day surging over each other, and [then] the Horn will be blown, and I will assemble them in [one] assembly.[3]. Then you will fight Dajjal and victory will be granted (by Allah).” Jabir said: “Dajjal (the anti-Christ) will not appear until you have fought the Romans.”. Then when Eisa (عليه السلام) would have returned to the Earth, further groups from the Yajuj and Majuj nations would again come forth with an all-out attack as stated in the narrations above. Concernant leur apparence, aucun écrit ne permet de se prononcer catégoriquement sur leur aspect corporel, la seule certitude étant qu'il s'agirait d'êtres humains descendants d'Adam et d'Eve, de forme analogue à la notre, et ayant les mêmes attributs physiques que les humains. ( Log Out /  There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him! One of the Muslims will become angry and smash it, and the Romans will act treacherously and prepare for the battle.[22]. ولاتزالون تقاتلون عدواً حتى تقاتلون يأجوج ومأجوج ، عراض الوجوه ، صغار العيون ، صهب الشعاف ، من كل حدب ينسلون ، كأن وجوههم المجان المطرقة ) . The apparent, literal reading of the text enables us to reach at this conclusion; even the other widely held view that Y&M would come out in billions and trillions from somewhere underground between the mountains is based on apparent, literal reading. In closing, my dear brother, my intention is not to challenge you. They have wide faces and small eyes. It appears that very destructive weapons would be used. Allah knows best. The idea to erect a barrier was from the people who were disturbed by Yajuj and Majuj and since they were ordinary people (i.e. Furthermore, I posted the Hadith about Da’ood (عليه السلام) to make the point as well. Bien plus, nous étions des injustes versets 96/97 - Sourate les Prophètes. Where Are Yajuj wa Majuj - Gog and Magog Removing The Myths Around Yajuj Wa Majuj My research and study into the subject of Yajuj wa Majuj represents the opinions and views of the major scholars and historians of Islam on this matter, expanded on in light of modern knowledge, it maybe new to you but that is only because no other scholar has done this in our time. 97. Anyway, just wanted to bring this to your attention. What we learn from these narrations is that Yajuj and Majuj have similar features as Turkic people because they are from them. What can be said is that the interpretation is unclear whether it is authentic or not. One may feel that there is a contradiction here but if the initial conclusion is kept in mind, this would not occur. Why Does Allah Communicate to us through a Medium? share | improve this question | follow | edited Feb 18 '15 at 3:27. goldPseudo ♦ 11.8k 13 13 gold badges 44 44 silver badges 116 116 bronze badges. Abu ‘Isa al-Tirmidhi says: Azhar ibn Marwan narrated to us from ‘Abd al-‘A’la from Sa’id from Qatadah, from Abu Rafi’ that Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: “Gog and Magog dig the barrier every day until, when they can almost see the rays of the sun, the one in charge of them says: “Go back and we will dig it tomorrow.” Then Allah puts it back, stronger than it was before. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. True promise refers to the Day of Judgment and the Afterlife. Ils dirent: «Ô Ḏūl-Qarnayn, les Yā jūj et les Mā jūj(2) commettent du désordre sur terre. أما أن خروجهم موعود بعد اندكاكه بدون فصل، فلا حرف فيه, ولم يذكر في القرآن لفظ الخروج من هذا السد فقط، هاهنا، ولما ذكر في «الأنبياء»: {{حَتَّى إِذَا فُتِحَتْ يَأْجُوجُ وَمَأْجُوجُ}} ولم يذكر السد، والردم، فكان الخروج لعمومهم. But unlike us (I hope), they are monstrous by nature. Alternatively, the hadith could be inauthentic as mentioned by some scholars. Are Hadiths Anti-Semitic? Basic reading of the text is sufficient for this understanding and a simple look into tafaseer, including the statements of Sahaba, give us the same meaning. The Qur’an states that Yajuj and Majuj attempted to pass over the barrier and to break through it but were unable to do so. The story of Yajuj and Majuj is stated both in the Quran and hadith. The following narration gives us the indication that Yajuj and Majuj are around 90% of the entire mankind. As for the issue of Hajj and it continuing after the emergence of Ya’juj and Ma’juj, again, I think that the text is not conclusive as the hadith uses the same word (khuruj) as the other ahadith that speak of their emergence. This doesn’t have to mean that they are present at the barrier all along — the hole already made in the barrier might be due to seismic activity: whereas before, the Gog and Magog could not break through, in the future they will be able to break through, because the mountains joined by the barrier may well have shifted over time as a result of tectonic forces. I don’t deny this great sign, for it is mentioned in the Quran. He said: I say what I heard from Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ). The Prophet (saws) described them as being well-built and having red hair, small eyes and wide, flat, shield-like faces. Brother, overall you’ve done really good job at building a strong case at this point, namely that the barrier has already been destroyed. I’ve introduced your article, with some added historical context to the Gog/Magog tradition, on my blog: http://quranic-musings.blogspot.com/2016/03/demystifying-gog-and-magog-in-judeo.html. I myself was planning to blog about this but I think your post is very detailed so I ask Allah to reward you. They will fight until night will intervene them; both the sides will return without being victorious and both will be wiped out. | Qur'anic misconceptions addressed, the hadiths where Jesus(s) himself talks about Gog and Magog are weak. Cheikh Nabil Al Awadi nous raconte leur histoire … Et ce jour-là Nous présenterons de près l’Enfer aux mécréants. Les champs obligatoires sont indiqués avec *, Copyright © 2020 ISLAM POUR L'ETERNITE the Mongols in the 13th century. Est-ce que nous pourrons t’accorder un tribut pour construire une barrière entre eux et nous?». Then (will come) the conquest of Baitul-Maqdis (Jerusalem); then a disease which will appear among you and cause you and your offspring to die as martyrs and will purify your deeds; then there will be (much) wealth among you, so that if a man were to be given one hundred Dinar he would still be dissatisfied; and there will be tribulation among you that will not leave any Muslim house untouched; then there will be a treaty between you and the Romans, then they will betray you and march against you with eighty banners, under each of which will be twelve thousand (troops).’”[23]. Allah knows best. Then the mountains will turn to dust and the earth will be stretched out like a hide. Allah knows best. I went through your site earlier and it is really good (ما شاء الله). Gog and Magog are normal human tribes descendant from Noah’s son Japheth (as) through his son Majuj (Magog) from whom arose Turkic-Slavonic-Mongol races. Lastly, there is another interpretation of this Hadith: 999 out of 1,000 would be Yajuj and Majuj and one would be the believers; where would the other disbelievers (other than Yajuj and Majuj) be then? 98. Versets à propos de Dhu-l-Qarnayn et Gog et Magog dans la sourate 94 Al-Kahf (la caverne): 83. It is at the east base of Mount Kazbek, south of present-day Vladikavkaz. Currently I’m thinking of understanding ‘earth’ in 41:9 to refer to the origin of the earth (ie. Islam, but there would be some among them who would not be pleased with peace; they would go and join Yajuj and Majuj. He (Jabir b. Abdullah) kept quiet for a while and then reported Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) having said there would be a caliph in the last (period) of my Ummah who would freely give handfuls of wealth to the people without counting it. They (have the quality) of being good to the destitute and the orphans, to the weak and the good quality in them is that they put resistance against the oppression of kings.[24]. All these above in addition to this Hadith makes our case stronger I believe (ان شاء الله ﺗﻌﺎﻟﯽٰ). [23] Sunan Ibn Majah, Book 36, Hadith 117. asked Feb 15 '15 at 12:45. ‘Eisa (peace be upon him) and the believers with him will take refuge in Mount Toor until Allaah destroys Ya’juj and Ma’juj by sending worms that will eat their necks. In Sunan Ibn Majah, we learn that Eisa (عليه السلام) said: فَأَنْزِلُ فَأَقْتُلُهُ فَيَرْجِعُ النَّاسُ إِلَى بِلاَدِهِمْ فَيَسْتَقْبِلُهُمْ يَأْجُوجُ وَمَأْجُوجُ وَهُمْ مِنْ كُلِّ حَدَبٍ يَنْسِلُونَ فَلاَ يَمُرُّونَ بِمَاءٍ إِلاَّ شَرِبُوهُ وَلاَ بِشَىْءٍ إِلاَّ أَفْسَدُوهُ فَيَجْأَرُونَ إِلَى اللَّهِ فَأَدْعُو اللَّهَ أَنْ يُمِيتَهُمْ فَتَنْتُنُ الأَرْضُ مِنْ رِيحِهِمْ فَيَجْأَرُونَ إِلَى اللَّهِ فَأَدْعُو اللَّهَ فَيُرْسِلُ السَّمَاءَ بِالْمَاءِ فَيَحْمِلُهُمْ فَيُلْقِيهِمْ فِي الْبَحْرِ ثُمَّ تُنْسَفُ الْجِبَالُ وَتُمَدُّ الأَرْضُ مَدَّ الأَدِيمِ فَعُهِدَ إِلَىَّ مَتَى كَانَ ذَلِكَ كَانَتِ السَّاعَةُ مِنَ النَّاسِ, ‘I will descend and kill him (Dajjal i.e. ( Log Out /  Scholars have not categorically denied this view to be unacceptable; what the scholars have denied and rejected is the view that Yajuj and Majuj have been released and that their full and final attack has also taken place. [19] Al-Alusi did not deny the argument presented in this paper. Fourthly, the ancient most civilizations have pretty much all gone extinct except the ones with small eyes, short noses, and broad faces and they have always been in significantly huge numbers and, at the same time, their ages have also been significantly longer while other nations numbered very few. ‘Unable to pass over it’ strongly implies that there was a way on top of the wall/barrier. Memahami Khilaf Dan Hakikat Sebenar Ya'juj dan Ma'juj. The death scale would be so high that a bird would not be able to fly over the bodies. Anyway, speaking of classical opinions, I’d love to see your take on either interpretations on Quranic chronology of creation of the universe as the classical opinion is that the earth was created before the heaven. PS: I recently finished my article on Dhu al-Qarnayn and the supposed borrowing from the Syriac Alexander Legend. Ya’juj and Ma’juj – two disbelieving tribes from among the sons of Adam. And a cry would reach them: The Dajjal has taken your place among your offspring. He said: ‘Count that as the first. However this hadith has no evidence as to if Ya’juj and Ma’juj are out already unless one interprets it to refer to a past event. human beings without supernatural powers), they requested for a barrier that was worldly as well; hard and strong but not an unrealistic or an unimaginable one. Now let us fight the people of heaven!’ Then one of them will throw his spear towards the sky, and it will come back down smeared with blood. One quick question: Could you elaborate on your interpretation on Surah 21:97-98 and how you see the destruction of the city being a CONSEQUENCE of the release of Gog and Magog? *isa (عليه السلام) seems to refer to only one such event. The Muslims will again prepare a detachment for fighting unto death so that they may not return but victorious. What is interesting about the narration is the surprise of the companion of the Prophet (ﷺ). Ainsi, ils(3) ne purent guère l’escalader ni l’ébrécher non plus. And they would fight such a fight the like of which would not be seen, so much so that even if a bird were to pass their flanks, it would fall down dead before reaching the end of them. From the Hadith, we learn that an opening had been made in the barrier during the time of the Prophet (ﷺ). I suppose one could interpret the words ” and they, from every elevation, descend” as to referring to multiple events (ie. It is not necessary that they attacked immediately after their barrier broke but took a few hundred years to do so and they may attack in stages as well. His explanations, translations and interpretations are so connected and harmonized that with the knowledge I possess with the grace of Allah (SWT) it is very hard to reject yet it gives a feeling of having the puzzle solved without having any problem with any ayah or hadith. That signals their final assault on mankind. 88. 5, book 44, Hadith 3076. 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